Friday 25 January 2013

It’s not satire


 (Trigger warning)

 

The subject of jokes about rape was first bought to my immediate attention last autumn when a new acquaintance, also new to feminism, told me of a campaign she had some involvement in that was asking comedy clubs to ban rape jokes http://rapeisnojoke.com/

I had mixed feelings at the time. I've been a live comedy fan for many years and have laughed at and been entertained by some very rude and risky material in the past. I have never been a fan of censorship and feel that satirical comedy about issues, such as terrorism for example (think “Four Lions”), can be a good way to draw attention to how ludicrous something is.

 
I forgot all about the conversation until about one month later when I was, as usual pottering around my lounge of an early evening doing umpteen jobs as my son sat scrolling his Facebook newsfeed. Mid washing folding he alerted me to a picture "joke" from a facebook site he had followed or "liked" called Tony Stark https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Tony-Stark/165357510187553?fref=ts


This is the picture/joke in question -
 
 
 
 
 
 
I'll pause here and let you take that in for a moment.........

 
Because that's what I did. After being initally totally taken aback and verbalising to my son  how awful I thought this was I did precisely nothing except think about it.  
I got on with making dinner, I fed the family, I cleaned up and for about 48 hours I thought about it a hell of a lot. I later looked for it again but couldn't find it (I like to hope it was deleted) I did however find this one on the same page –


Both pictures had been commented on - "LOL", ""This is joke", "Hey *****, you slut this could be you" - comments along those lines. They had also been shared numerous times.
So what did I do? Honestly? Nothing, for another 24 hours by which time I could no longer find either picture on any newsfeeds.


I didn't stop reflecting on them though. I couldn’t get them out of my head. I'd like to say I haven’t had a sheltered life, I have seen abusive and offensive things many times in the past, (I have been a nurse for 20 years for goodness sake) and was used to shruggling it off but there was something about my response to this that was different.

I couldn't place it at first, then I read an article by Laura Bates on Rape Culture and it suddenly fell into place. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/sites-like-uni-lad-only-act-to-support-our-everyday-rape-culture-8360109.html

These are not innocent jokes or even satirical jokes, they are not harmless banter or simply bad taste, they are dangerous. They add to the creation of an environment where "victims are silenced and perpetrators encouraged to see crimes as merely ‘banter’ - just part of ‘being a lad’"

There have been many more rape jokes since these first two and although the nature of the jokes alters in subtle ways there are common themes.

 
Firstly the picture itself –
 
It often shows a young woman or girl in a vulnerable position, sometimes quite exposed and often passed out cold. The first concern then in the mind of those seeing this (with any conscious at all) has to be - what was going on here? Is this person ok? What happened, why were they photographed and by whom?
Sometimes however the photograph itself is innocent or, as in this case, an initial joke that the woman in it was clearly in on –


The next issue in either case is then the words or "Joke".

"RAPE, expect a bit of it"

"BUNNY RAPE, look what happens when you change in front of him"

"Real men don't rape, I'm no man baby"

"EXTREME RAPE, the woman in the picture is going to get it. Very hard"

"ROOFIES, No response doesn't necessarily mean no"

Listen to the content here. I mean really take it in.
Women - expect a bit of rape, I am no man and therefore can rape you, Extreme rape, somebody is going to get it hard, no response doesn't mean no ...and then remind yourself that these have been shared umpteen times. Passed around the internet.
There are comments, some thankfully pointing out that this is not funny or quoting rape statistics but many others adding to the horror with "I'd rape that" or "That bitch is gonna be dead after all those dicks". In the space of  few shared words and pictures we go from the world I had thought I lived in where rape was a hateful, violent, abhorent crime against a person that ruined lives, to a world where it is questionable whether it is a crime at all. Where it is an amusing anecdote about a passed out woman who might be assualted. Where the vaginal pentration of a "roofied" or drunk young woman is acceptable as she is unable to verbalise a "No". Where women may expect a bit of rape if they are going to have any sense of humour about their sexuality or if they dance provocatively in a room containing men.
 

I have been told I must have no sense of humour or that I am missing the point of the joke in question. I have been told that my 15 year old son only finds these offensive because his mother is so uptight. I have been blocked by Tony Stark for repteatedly asking him to remove these images every time puts them out and I have been told by facebook that they do no contain violent images or hate speech and that they will not take any action.

To those people I will say this.
Have you seen the statistics about the number of women who experience rape and sexual assault in their lifetime and how few result in a conviction or even see a day in court?
Have you read about, heard about or noticed the lack of common respect for women, who are abused and harassed on the street or in the workplace?
Have you considered how, on the background of this reality women are supposed to respond when they see these jokes? On seeing men discuss the crime of rape in such a lighthearted way, in seeing the clear line of consent and a women’s ownership of her body blurred, in seeing you're eagerness to join in and "Rape that".
Our fear that we will be raped, that we are simply waiting for the fateful day, increases. We think you might be a potential rapist, we worry that some men may not understand that this is supposed to be a joke or banter and may think that penetrating the next passed out woman they encounter is acceptable. That some may consider a woman who dances or dresses provactively to be asking for "date rape in 4..3..2...1." or that roofying a drink is funny?
I like to think you are not aware of this or how much women fear rape, every time they walk down a street and a car pulls up or a man leers from a doorway in a quiet area of town or we take a taxi alone or we run down a country path or we guard our drink and closely watch the barman lest he slip in a pill. All the time, everywhere we go and for our daughers too.
I like to think that you don’t know but maybe even subconciously, you see it as a useful way to keep women in their place? Our heads down, quiet, covered and indoors.
I worry that  you  know how hard it is for a woman to report a rape for fear she will be blamed or not taken seriously. I like to think that you haven't considered how making rape a joke might make reporting even more difficult or how it may feel to somebody who has been a victim to see these images.
I like to think that but every time I see another and I read the comments and see the “Shares” I doubt it more.
There is one thing I will be doing, that we can all do which relates to these awful jokes and the sites that share them and rallys against rape culture in general and that is to show our support and get involved in One Billion Rising http://onebillionrising.org/ . This fantastic worldwide campaign gives everyone the opportunity to show their solidartity with the one in three women that are raped and assaulted in the world and against those who carry out and belittle these awful crimes. so, on the 14th Feb, Join me! Find your nearest event and sing, dance, generally make a noise and Rise!

20 comments:

  1. Just have a look thru any Women's magazine & any article.
    See how many references you see degrading & running down men.
    It is completely pervasive.
    Are you campaigning against that?
    I see you do not seem to like Page 3 either, so perhaps this is just part of your feminist hate-men agenda.
    Yes these so-called-jokes are hard hitting, they are designed to wind up people like you.
    Let's face it most people do not mind these, just shrug their shoulders.
    No doubt folks like you feel Violent Video Games also cause mass murders & cartoons on TV cause violence as well.
    You are entitled to your views, but you are not entitled to censor anyone else's.

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    1. ScotchGuy what are you on?
      Violent video games never have a bit at the end going 'it's okay to kill people'.
      Women's articles may run down men, but they never condone murder or rape.
      there is a difference between 'running down' and condoning rape - and that's what these images do: they aren't like violent videogame which some could poorly argue encourgae violence indirectly.
      They explicitly condone rape.
      Most people are offended by these, and even if they weren't, imagine how someone who has been raped would feel like seeing one?
      After being subject to one of the worst experiences known to man they then see photos condoning the act. Support for rapers over victims? This is unacceptable.
      Censorship is perfectly acceptable when something ENCOURAGES acts whic are crimes. this does.
      it should be consored.

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    2. I am open mouthed...in shock...
      I'm no feminist but the casual use of the word rape in the images above and your words ScotchGuy have got me flabbergasted. as a parent to a nearly 15 year old boy I feel it's my duty to teach him about respect and kindness. rape is NEVER funny!

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    3. ScotchGuy, congratulations for proving the author's point. You've just compared "running down men in women's magazines" with rape.

      I only hope you don't have a wife, a daughter or a sister if images of them with "Extreme rape, somebody is going to get it hard" written underneath are amusing to you. Or are the images okay because it's just "some random woman"?

      EVERY woman is SOMEONES wife or daughter or sister. If you wouldn't find it funny for your own family, don't find it funny for someone elses.

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    4. "Censorship is perfectly acceptable when something ENCOURAGES acts whic are crimes"

      I agree with everything else you say, but I'm not sure this is a good standard for censorship. Would you ban pictures encouraging people to smoke cannabis? What about pictures encouraging people to partake in civil disobedience and protest? Don't forget also that laws are dependant on social context. Would it be acceptable to you if the Saudi government banned a picture of a woman in public without a veil?

      No one would post a picture advocating child rape, because the social taboo against it is sufficient to prevent people from doing it in the first place; it needn't be officially censored because the great majority of people practice self-censorship with such things. The answer is not censorship, but changing public attitudes so that people recognise and understand that these pictures are not funny.

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    5. vonnie_whinging_pom you say you're "no feminist" but your comment leads me to believe you are. Do you, as a female especially, not think you deserve equal rights to men? Equal opportunities? Because if you do, then I hate to break it to you, you are a feminist. We are not all bra-burning, hairy-legged man-haters (I quite like men, especially those who hate rape jokes)!

      But yes, I constantly see images like this with 'jokes' written underneath, supposed to be taken as 'banter', but I just don't see the humour in them AT ALL. Ok, maybe some people find them mildly amusing, but as
      I AM A DECENT HUMAN BEING (and female, so I do at times feel like I am at risk of being raped) I just do not find them funny, ever.

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    6. almost everything you said was 1) irrelevant 2) stereotypical recylced bullshit

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  2. This, I believe, is a thoughtfully considered and well written article. This lady, at no point says anything negative about men, I think you'll find. Are you saying all men find Rape to be a joke? Page three is a seperate issue altogether. Feminists DO NOT hate men. They just want fairer treatment of women. By society as a whole and not just men. Rape is a serious issue and there is nothing to be said against that. A ridiculous response there, 'ScotchGuy'..

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    1. Feminists DO NOT hate men? Really? You don't have to look too hard to find these quotes by some prominent feminists:

      "The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race." -- Sally Miller Gearhart, in The Future - If There Is One - Is Female.

      "I feel that 'man-hating' is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." -- Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor.

      overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation, and destroy the male sex." -- Valerie Solana, SCUM founder (Society for Cutting Up Men.)

      "I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig." -- Andrea Dworkin, American feminist

      "Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear" -- Susan Brownmiller; Authoress of Against Our Will

      "All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman." -- Catherine MacKinnon (Prominent legal feminist scholar; University of Michigan, & Yale.)

      "In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent." -- Catharine MacKinnon, quoted in Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales from the Strange World of Women's Studies.

      "And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference." -- Susan Griffin, Rape: The All-American Crime.

      "Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience." - Catherine Comins

      "All men are rapists and that's all they are" -- Marilyn French, Authoress

      As for these images, it is obvious that they condone or even encourage rape. When ScotchGuy compared them to video games, I feel he wasn't being clear as to why he did so. His point was that playing violent video games don't cause normal people to become mass murdering psychos, therefore, he believes that viewing these images doesn't cause normal people to become rapists. While true, there may be a number of not so normal people who may act on this encouragement to rape. Despite this, I have serious reservations about censorship and banning. I strongly believe in freedom of speech, and, even in the case of the quotes above, although I STRONGLY disagree with those people, I believe they have the right to express their views, as I have to express mine. Don't like the images? Don't look at them. Concerned they are giving your children a warped view of sexuality? Talk to your children.

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  3. its a common thing on online gaming chats that jokes about rape are acceptable. it winds me up. its not funny at all. this was a very well written article and i agree with herviews.

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  4. Thanks for posting this, Lisa Lou. I have been worried about these images for a while and have had conversations with my 14 year old son about them. I'm very proud of him for understanding my point of view when much of his peer group think they are harmless fun.

    I also have a problem with the term 'frape', which takes the word rape and turns it into a joke. Several people have dismissed my concern about this as an overreaction.

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  5. The accusation about being uptight has always been thrown at feminists or people who stand up to things that are offensive in society. I'm sure that when people made (or still make) racist jokes and others objected they were told to relax it's just a joke etc. But obviously some kinds of joke are unacceptable. It is a very fine line between a risky humour and offensive. This could be thought of as merely a personal line to draw. But perhaps the issue is about the place in society of the group who are the but of the joke. Women are oppressed by men, rape happens and it is a symptom of violence and oppression women experience in society. I feel this is an incitement to rape or violence perhaps if it was an incitement to racial, or religion based violence it would be considered illegal?

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  6. I like this article but the question which arrises is what is to be done? I think that first and foremost feminists have to say that censorship is not an option, if you have to resort to making someones speech illigal then you have lost the arguement. The solution I think, as with so many things, is education. Boys have to be brought up in an enviroment in which rape and abuse of women is not accepted and made to be as real as possible; in that these image's are far removed from the reality and if a young man was put face to face with the trauma of rape I'm sure thier humour would fade.
    Also I think racism in comedy is a really good model. It was totally pervasive and accepted and then in the late 70's early 80's a group of alternative comdians turned against it and endlessly mocked the stupidity of the racist comdians. Again they did not censor them rather they turned the tide of culture against them. This is the task for those who wish to dismantle the rape culture.

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  7. This is such an important issue and important article. Thank you for adding another strong and eloquent voice to the debate. The scary, scary thing is that this is all getting worse right now, not better. We need more strong female voices adding their words into the argument.

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  8. oh surprise, first comment is of the "what about da menz" variety. It makes me want to punch someone. Seriously.

    The point about all this kind of anti-woman sentiment is that it is performed against a backdrop of the patriarchy, the power relationship between men and women. Which doesn't mean that misandry and violence against men is condoned - it is just as bad. But we're talking specifically about pictures of women here. It makes my blood boil that this "what about da menz" thing comes up every freaking time. Men are very welcome to start their own blogs about it.

    But wouldn't it be so so so much better if we could all agree that this kind of thing is not acceptable? That we as women have to try to educate everyone around us: friends, daughters, sisters, boyfriends, fathers, sons, husbands, partners... we should all be up in arms about this. As for facebook: keep on at them. Keep on at everyone who makes any comment other than "this image is not acceptable" on threads with those pictures.

    And hang on to the idea that the vast majority of people don't think like that. Good blog post. Thanks for that.

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  9. Well done Lisa. This is very important. I think Facebook has a lot to answer for. I have reported these rape jokes and they don't remove them. It's hard to find a "category" to put them in so Facebook just say it doesn't fit the "category". It seems like you can say anything you like, put any pictures you like, be as offensive, violent, hateful and provocative as you want - if you are that way inclined - and they do nothing. The "report" feature is a waste of time.

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  10. Rape is never funny, no, but neither is discrimination, bullying, murder...but theyre all joked about. You talk specifically about not believing in censorship in comedy, well thats what your asking for. When a comedian makes a joke about murder in general or sometimes about a specific person/incident, the reason its funny is not because nobody gives a shit, its because we know that comedian isnt making light of that thing, its a joke based around it and we know that perosn on stage doesnt condone the crime. Same principal here, you can joke about it, it doesnt mean for a second your son or anybody for that matter, is thinking its ok. We can laugh because one, the picture in every situation is being taken out of context and we know nothing actually sinister is happening, and two, because the person posting probably doesn't condone rape, its just a joke. Again, only using your examples, 'Four lions' deals with the murdering of large groups based on religious beliefs. Hundreds have died because of this in real life, and that movie probably hurt people who have been affected. Doesnt mean the film-makers dont care about those people, its just a joke. If your going to censor this then all comedy, films, games etc will have to be judged and censored, so you tell me where you draw the line....Its up to you as a parent to make sure your son knows its not to be taken seriously or stop him from having access at all and thats the end of it.

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    1. I think that's a bit of a straw argument there Stefan, it's not necessarily just the pics themselves, but the horrifying responses to it. To use your example, 'Four Lions' wasn't condoning violence against other religions, nor was it encouraging people to take up arms and involve themselves in a bit of terrorism! And it had a hard-hitting serious message. These do not. Instead we have young men replying with 'I'd rape that' and finding the images hilarious without a single hint of empathy. Nice.

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    2. Also - read this. Seriously...it points out the difference in comedy topics and why, yes, some are misguided.

      http://austin.culturemap.com/newsdetail/07-12-12-14-37-the-best-response-weve-heard-to-daniel-toshs-misquoted-rape-jokes/

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  11. Donald Glover once asked why jokes about rape are less acceptable than those about murder. Thinking about it I wrote a list about why the subjects are different.

    1. You are much less likely to have a murderer in your audience than a rapist. Due to the increased amount of the latter, and the fact apalling conviction rates means a rapist with ten victims is less likely to be in prison than a murderer with one there are a lot more rapists out there going to be attending comedy shows and laughing at your joke and thinking, "see, it's fine what I do, the funnyman made a joke about it."
    2. You are are certainly not going to have any murder victims in your audience. Look out at your audience, anybody there with blood drooling from their mouth, pennies over their eyes? No? Yup! you're not going to be offending any murder victims withoyur murder jokes. Yet any woman in your audience could be a rape victim and your next joke could deligitimise her suffering.
    3. There are less myths about murder. No one thinks that a murder victim asked for it by wearing certain clothes, being drunk, talking to their murderer or suchlike. No-one responded to John Lennon's death by suggesting that "signing that autograph like that, he was asking for it!" Those myths do exist around rape and you should not seek to propogate them.

    However, all that said, should you not make rape jokes? Well check the list, do they legitimise the actions of a rapist by diminishing the seriousness of the crime? do they delegitimise the suffering of the victim by dimishing the seriousness of the crime? do they propogate rapes around rape?

    If the answer to those three questions is no then I think you can be in the clear. Lena Dunham's character in Girls has a wonderful scene where she tries to ctack a rape joke in an interview with predictable results. The humour in the scene comes from how inappropriate Lena's comments were, not the suffering of the victims of domestic violence.

    The first thing I ever wrote to go "out there" (I sort of think of the internet as like pinning things to the sky) was directly after the Todd Aitken controversy and adressed his comments about rape by taking them to their logical conclusion, taking such an ill-thought out statement to its logical conclusion will obviously highlight the ridiculousness of the argument. Anything that is so ridiculous ultimately has the power to be funny and I don't think you should shy away from mocking idiots. Making someone look evil also has the unforseen effect of making them look a little cool. Making someone look like a bellend will manage to overcome that with ease, and make people chuckle at the same time.

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